a person who wrote this is just sad, miserable, butthurt utd fan. Whilst they might not have spent as much as Chelsea and City, they have spent more than Arsenal and Man Utd (£100m more than Arsenal). What a pile of shit this is. Empire of the Kop Defends SoS For Chants. Is kelvin mckenzie harshly treated by the scouse? - Page 4 ... The fact that there were obviously many other factors at play which actually contributed to the deaths, has perhaps given us an ‘out’ which we are sometimes too keen to take. I had you sussed in the newbies. 39 Juventus fans were killed. You might as well say all Londoners are killers and horrible people because of Jack the Ripper! I had experienced some scary away days in the 80’s but not on this scale, I wasn’t arsed that we had won a European Cup, I just wanted to get home safe.

I mean, he did run a kid over.. he didn’t mean to, but he did. The reality is, neutrals do no want Liverpool to win the league.

What respect the Liverpool fans have for their fellow fans. There are however too many ex Liverpool players on TV so this perhaps big’s up this chaps opinion. For many years, Liverpool ’s response to Heysel was woefully inadequate. http://tomkinstimes.com/2013/05/heysel-25-years-on-book-extract/. With no European football, and being knocked out of the cups early, he has been able to keep his squad fit, and at peak condition. I originally felt dismayed at Everton’s forced European withdrawal and eventual decimation juxtaposed with Liverpool’s fortune. Southgate is too nice. Heysel and Hillsborough: English football has a selective memory when it comes to tragedy. I think the guy has made this one up himself. To be fair, fuck the royal family, and if you disagree you are a backwards twat!! Did you mean Liverpool fans climbing walls to get out of a crush? We have much common ground here when it comes to not just Heysel, but with regards Hillsborough also. While in relation to Heysel, if any other club had been responsible for the deaths of so many Juventus supporters, it would used as a stick to use against them at every opportunity, as opposed to just pretend it never happened.

The Anfield club have rewarded the Israel skipper following his best season in English football with a new two-year extension to his current deal which has two seasons to run..

Sure its been a long time since we won the league, but I’d like to think if we didn’t win ANYTHING for nine years I wouldn’t end up as butthurt as you obviously are. Dillon, England . We boarded the coach and there was glass everywhere as most of the windows had been smashed. Let's just keep it about the football. Tutti quanti non avrebbero potuto far di peggio. So England should hire….

You would hope not. When has this ever been said.

European governing body UEFA went further, announcing a five-year ban on English clubs and an indefinite suspension for Liverpool that would last until 1991. May 27, 2013 Chris Rowland. If not, shouldn't we? There seems to have been many factors involved and Liverpool fans do need to accept their share of responsibility. CTID.

There have always been arseholes who fight at football matches and travel just for that (West Ham’s inter City form for one). I was at that Cup yes!
I knew about the ambulance too, shocking behavior but surely not isolated more to do with a high profile game. Billionaires in their own right. after a particularly nasty derby with recriminations flying and trying to educate people to what happened, I found your article. These Liverpool fans got English football banned from Europe for 6 years after their behaviour caused the death of 39 Juventus fans at Heysel. Pretty comical. The remaining ten defendants were acquitted of manslaughter, but some had their £2,000 bail money confiscated, having been absent for part of the trial. My Greatest Day in Baseball, one of the earliest collections of the game’s oral histories, presents forty-seven famous stars from the golden age of baseball relating their most unforgettable moments in the sport. Liverpool's former European Cup-winning keeper Bruce Grobbelaar has criticised Jurgen Klopp's handling of Loris Karius in the aftermath of the German's Champions League nightmare. 4. Incomprehensibly, UEFA demanded the game go ahead while the bodies of the dead were still being counted. This time it was the turn of AC Milan to face Liverpool, with the latter miraculously overturning a three-goal deficit, securing the club its fifth trophy in the process. Respect to liverpool from juventus supporter, Yeah you really sound Italian “Chuck”–2 seasons of poor quality football,1st M Utd & now Liverpool playing gung ho crap–no quality and one season wonders. . It’s weird that a tragedy like this, at a televised showcase final is so under-reported and unexamined. Steven Gerrard ran over a kid Forgiveness is something they cannot contemplate. Like their owner who kept trying to get a low interest loan off the. There was no hint of an apology. And yet he didn’t, and I won’t even waste time with the oft-circulated rumours as to why he didn’t, but LFC fans just treat it like it never happened. Heysel, 27 Years On - Book Extract. Adesso quando penso a Liverpool mi si associano due idee molto contrastanti: i Beatles e l’Heysel. Heysel was an accident, the cause largely down to the appalling state of the ground. Heysel was the disgraceful culmination of more than a decade of ugly incidents involving English supporters on their European travels: Tottenham Hotspur in Rotterdam in 1974 and 1983, Leeds United in Paris in 1975, Manchester United in St Etienne in 1977, the national team in Basle in 1981 and so on until the spiral of moronic violence reached its tragic conclusion – logical in one sense, crazy in all others – in Brussels. The article has the class of a Chelski fan. And here I thought I had respect for arsenal fans and the respect was mutual. I don´t like him because his name is Lucas Leiva, I like him because he is Lucas Leiva!

I cried in the Olimpico that night, for Juve, for me, and for the 39. Liverpool Fans Attacked in Naples | FollowFollow.com When it did start it wasn’t a normal match. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy My point is that it's just a case of . Those responsible are more likely to be living next door or drinking in your local. Harsh I know but I don’t think he tried to engineer it. What Was Football Like in the 1980s? Every club throughout the Premier League will have their own stories of too many Liverpool fans turning up, fake tickets, and the lack of concern many Scousers have for their own fans safety. Sorry you didn’t get Suarez. It is in a place where there is a continuous recording of singing and shouting at the Juve success and is in such a place that most folk just go straight by it. Roberto Martinez. Also, no-one should be sent to prison for stabbing someone. 29 May: anniversary of Heysel Riot | Untold Arsenal ... The match programme featured a two-page apology by Liverpool fan Terry Wilson, who was jailed for his part in the rioting, while Reds fans held a banner spelling out the Italian word ‘amicizia’ (friendship).

Happy for a fellow human being to be banged up abroad whilst he sits in Liverpool, probably still going to games, without a care in the world. They have spent less than Chelsea and City, and the reason Man Utd and Arsenal haven’t spent is because of the Glazers and their well documented financial problems in the USA, and Wenger’s frugality and reluctance in the transfer market. "Liverpool has a great sporting history in Europe and I am sure that supporters would want to further enhance the reputation of football on Merseyside by being ambassadors for their club and the city whilst contributing to the atmosphere inside the ground. Since then I have left shirts, scarves, flowers and poems in honour of the deceased and also of both clubs. It is undeniable. Anybody who relies on the blogs of biased people rather than researching something themselves is a prick. There is an opportunity albeit a further year down the line next May on the unbelievably 30th anniversary…… I really hope we mobilise to do something’s genuine and large. I was shown a copy of the club’s official yearbook for 1985/86. NEW – Home cycling shorts + shirts now on the shop. i have never seen such a bitter and twisted remarks about another club in a lfc blog. We appear to have done great things linking up with other fans abroad, the liaisons with Borrusia and the Gate 21 supporters group being great examples, but guess Juve has been a bit nervy to approach as outlined in the article. No wonder John Smith was horrified and had difficulty believing a set of fans with no history of hooliganism could be partly responsible. Stealing tickets, travelling with fake tickets and jibbing through the barriers to see Liverpool in the 2005 Champions League final.

A Chelsea fan stated that Liverpool should receive the award for "most tributes paid to anyone who has ever died in Liverpool", obviously referencing and mocking Hillsborough. It would take 20 years from the disaster until the clubs met again in the Champions League. Never handed in my ticket. Your email address will not be published.

The largest, most ludicrous myth around at this moment in time is that neutrals want Liverpool to win the league. This book explores how recent football fiction has negotiated the decisive political developments in English football after the 1989/90 publication of the 'Taylor Report'. For a long time, with so little other information, those images allowed me to let myself believe the poor fan behaviour was from both sides and the tragedy could just as easily have befallen Liverpool fans. At Heysel stadium, although that is not what it is now known as in Brussels, I was pointed to a memorial, a similar sort of size and style to the Anfield one, quite high in the left hand side of the stadium as you face the grand entrance.

As for the child being run over, that was dealt with by Gerrard and again, is irrelevant to Liverpool or football. Shocking and accurate. The 20th anniversary of the Hillsbrough disaster last month brought forth an outpouring of sympathy for the 96 people who died from a combination of a failure of police control, an archaic stadium, and, according to Cohen, a crush of fans who forced their way into the stadium without having purchased tickets to the F.A. Happy someone else taking a 10 year sentence for his crime. Just to highlight how few games Liverpool have played further: Manchester City: 54 games Although I was not present at Heysel,I had the misfortune to be on the ostende ferry with “fans “travelling to Heysel.I amongst many were subjected to some of the worst behaviour I have ever witnessed on a cross channel ferry.Many innocent holiday makers,many with children had their luggage stolen/robbed and then throw overboard.The ship itself was trashed and a trail of destruction left behind,this continued on the train to Brussels(I was travelling to cologne).It was also very apparent that a sgnificant proportion of the travelling fans were from other football clubs and were travelling purely for the mayhem and violence,which seems to have been the norm in Europe for English football fans at this time.Heysel was the personification of all that was wrong with English football in the eighties. When Roman arrived, in any other count. “For normal Juventus fans, it’s different. Media Sport Stars: Masculinities and Moralities
Thanks for all your . It's not as if there'd be bloody riots if it didn't go ahead, cf. I think there needs to be a full disclosure and a written in depth report to help the football community understand the circumstances surrounding that awful night, and that’s not to excuse any of the LFC fans that were found responsible. In this game, you could clearly hear the United fans (in majority .

The truth at last - You all love Liverpool FC | Page 728 ... Media Sport Stars considers how masculinity and male identity are represented through images of sport and sport stars. It’s an event that ties both clubs and will do for a long time to come. Argentinos Junior were beaten on penalties and Juve were the world champions.”. Liverpool is the city of pity. This book offers an accessible overview of the role sport plays in international relations and diplomacy. We wouldn’t have watched a football match.”. The overreaction from BT last night was hilarious, talking about the coach being destroyed and undriveable while showing coverage of it being driven away from the ground was genius.

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They controbuted to manslaughter, and LFC were responsible for the 5 year ban which badly hit English clubs. Gloating nah I think singing about our rich history in defense of being unable to win the league.

I cannot believe there is not more disgust at the actions of one (or more) English fan (s). Well that went well Bob! It's a bit of an insult to the world to hold a cult-of-strength help-the-advertisers nationalism fest during a global plague. He and I both had our scarves on, we neither spoke the others language but we exchanged scarves, embraced and cried together. We all know beyond a doubt he wanted to leave; he released a statement to that end. Liverpool and Juventus were today marking the 30th anniversary of the Heysel disaster which claimed the lives of 39 fans. The biased Liverpool loving media, ignore this fact of how they continually `bought` their success over two decades. Some 39 fans lost their lives and about 600 others were injured – 32 of those who died were from Italy, four from Belgium, two from France and one from Northern Ireland. Twenty three ago I was handed a piece of copy from a reputable news agency in Sheffield in which a senior police officer and a senior local MP were making serious allegations against fans in the stadium. The story of the ill fated 1985 European Cup Final between Liverpool F.C v Juventus . This book examines the debate which has long raged in Britain about the meaning of the Falklands War. All Silverware Won By Liverpool.

Drawing on central themes in the social scientific study of sport, such as globalisation, celebrity, fandom, commercialisation, gender, sexuality and race, this book is the first to assess the historical development and current significance ... Guess not. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. After making 320 appearances and scoring 167 goals for Celtic, Dalglish was signed by Liverpool manager Bob Paisley for a British transfer . Not one person arrested or charged came from the London area and why would they. Thanks for this sensitive, balanced and honest article. You get the feeling UEFA has been only too keen to sweep Heysel under the carpet and consign it to history, rather than face up to its own failings on the night.

You are as likely to come across debates about how the Juve team celebrated and how the club has done little to commemorate Heysel than you are about the evil of English fans. It’s a city and a football club that revel in playing the victim, and lets be honest they love to wear hillsborough as a badge, ignoring for a moment that htose 96 lives lost affected everyone in football. The memorial is a tall plastic column with the names engraved inside it and a very short piece in Italian. As everyone on this page acknowledges, it has remained a very uncomfortable topic to raise, so thanks again for this balanced and enlightening piece. I was given some very funny looks as I paid my respects in silent prayer, very different from the other supporters, most of whom were too young to really appreciate what I might have been doing there. Steven Cohen, co-host of the World Soccer Daily radio show, has been at it again.. Maybe that’s as much the fault of the media as us, but can’t help feeling that we, through fans groups and forums, could express such feelings with more vigour and intent. I heard rumors of Gerrard running over a kid and it being covered up, there is no evidence of what happened. After an arduous five months in court a further 10 Reds supporters were found not guilty, two Belgian officials were found guilty of criminal negligence while UEFA was cleared – much to the anger of the grieving families. I was there and despite some expressions of sorrow, regret and portion of responsibility, I don’t feel these have made their way into the public consciousness. Sadly, this is a poorly argued (and clearly prejudiced) article. Quite apart from the hooliganism, ticketing arrangements and police strategy and responses were criticised.

It does not convey what happened ‘on the ground’ at Heysel. the airbrushing of Heysel while milking Hillsborough, the arrogant sense of entitlement matched by the never ending grievance if said entitlement isn . Fact. Go on to the Italian club’s official website in search of a tribute and you will struggle to find anything beyond 106 words within a 645-word article called “Juventus wins everything”, a tribute to their successes in the 1970s and 1980s. On the anniversary of the day of the Hillsborough disaster, you always have somebody throw in “well what about paying respect for the 39 that Liverpool Fans murdered”. It seems to have been forgotten by the press however that Liverpool are owned by the Fenway Group, a conglomerate of brokers, bankers, hedge fund managers and media executives. Liverpool have got lucky this year, Brendan Rodgers has got lucky this year. Liverpool FC. Agree totally Bob, I did think the running a kid over thing was a bit unnecessary. This led to a 5-year ban from European competitions for English clubs and a 6-year ban for Liverpool. This book will be essential reading for anyone interested in football culture, hooliganism and collective violence.

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