The main characters, however, were not based on historical figures. A modern generation of young females pined for the young vagabond - and allowed their tears to blur their perceptions of reality. The other Rose was Miss Rose Amélie Icard, who was a maid to Mrs George Nelson Stone. Rose gets off the lifeboat just like Ida and she says the same line. But when you think about it objectively, it isn’t really. That brings us to our next point. Jack and Rose will always have a place in our hearts as one of those movie couples that you can’t help but love. When they were ready to head back home, they bought first class tickets on the RMS Titanic. Due to the sheer scale of this comment community, we are not able to give each post the same level of attention, but we have preserved this area in the interests of open debate.

Independent Premium Comments can be posted by members of our membership scheme, Independent Premium. Now, we know that the story of Jack and Rose is fiction — it’s an epic one, but it’s still fiction. But the relationship would have been a source of friction had Jack survived. You won't find Jack Dawson and Rose DeWitt Bukater on any passenger list, don't forget, Jack only won his ticket at the last moment! And she said, ‘Look at the cobwebs.’ And I never said a word.

"One time they were even caught 'necking!'

And their stories deserve to live, those of all the humble headstones serried nearby, tales untouched by a brush with recent fame. Joseph received an education, learned his father's trade of carpentry, was taught lessons by Jesuits who brought a crusading zeal into the community from nearby Belvedere College - later home of Fr Francis Browne SJ of Titanic photography fame - and grew to manhood. off of something similar Ida Straus said to her husband. Rose doesn’t think to offer the door to Jack and he’s too much of a martyr to suggest swapping, so, unfortunately, we get the ending that we have. The two had seven children together and they were “madly in love with one another.”, The couple was often apart. It’s just too much. Before that, in 1871, Isidor married Rosalie Ida Blun, and their marriage was described as very loving and that they were full of devotion for each other. And Patrick Dawson's family was steeped in the faith. O… Are you sure you want to delete this comment? It was here that Ida was said to have declared: “I will not go before the other men.” No one would be able to persuade Ida to change her mind, and this woman took her place next to her husband and never left his side. Perhaps Joseph's Irish accent was to blame; another Irish crew member, Jack Foley, had cried out that he was from Youghal, Co Cork.

Actually, Michael, unless Senan's story is several years old, then he wasn't the one who had discovered the existence of J. Dawson. Soon they were living together in a room in Summerhill, close to the yard where Patrick worked. Her distraught husband Patrick, now 55, turned to his wider family for solace, just as relatives rallied round to provide opportunities for Joseph and Margaret in the wider scheme of things.

"Until I see that every woman and child on board this ship is in a lifeboat, I will not enter into a lifeboat myself.'". This time the birth was registered, the parents formally identified. For now however, the family must live in just two small rooms, one of nine families compressed into the four-storey tenement. The similarities between fact and fiction are striking, however - both were young men, both largely penniless, who "gambled" their way aboard Titanic. Because she wanted to be a painter, Wood spent time in Paris as an artist and performer, which led her to meeting the wrong men.